Water Leak
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I have a 1992 2 door Ford Explorer. I have a water leak that also contains anti-freeze mixed with the water which is leaking from which looks like a hose that is comes out of the back firewall into the engine compartment under the evaporator case. There is also some type of moist fumes coming out of the passenger vents. The AC was completely replaced about one week ago. Mike
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When you say "The A/C was completely replaced" do you mean ALL components, both in and outside the firewall? If the mechanic didn’t replace your evaporator coil inside, it’s time to open up the checkbook and examine the condition of the evaporator coil and the heater coil. In the heater coil, the engine coolant runs through this miniature radiator to heat the cabin. That is what is probably leaking. If he didn’t replace the evaporator, do it now while the interior is opened up. OTOH, if he DID replace it, he may have erred by not examining the heater coil while the interior was opened up. Either way, it sounds like your heater coil has gone south. Not to worry TOO much. If in fact you have replaced EVERYTHING in the A/C system, this job should cost peanuts compared to what you have probably spent so far. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have a 1992 2 door Ford Explorer. > I have a water leak that also contains anti-freeze mixed with the water > which is leaking from which looks like a hose that is comes out of the back > firewall into the engine compartment under the evaporator case. There is > also some type of moist fumes coming out of the passenger vents. > The AC was completely replaced about one week ago. > Mike
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> When you say "The A/C was completely replaced" do you mean ALL
components, both in and outside the firewall? Here is a list of replaced parts. AC Compresser Orfice Tube-O Dryer AC Condensor Orings AC system AC Oil Freon R 134 134 Kit Adpaptor Flush AC system Evacuate AC system
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> When you say "The A/C was completely replaced" do you mean ALL > components, both in and outside the firewall? > If the mechanic didn’t replace your evaporator coil inside, it’s time to > open up the checkbook and examine the condition of the evaporator coil > and the heater coil. In the heater coil, the engine coolant runs through > this miniature radiator to heat the cabin. That is what is probably > leaking. If he didn’t replace the evaporator, do it now while the > interior is opened up. > OTOH, if he DID replace it, he may have erred by not examining the > heater coil while the interior was opened up. Either way, it sounds like > your heater coil has gone south. Not to worry TOO much. If in fact you > have replaced EVERYTHING in the A/C system, this job should cost peanuts > compared to what you have probably spent so far. > I have a 1992 2 door Ford Explorer. > I have a water leak that also contains anti-freeze mixed with the water > which is leaking from which looks like a hose that is comes out of the back > firewall into the engine compartment under the evaporator case. There is > also some type of moist fumes coming out of the passenger vents. > The AC was completely replaced about one week ago. > Mike
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Mike, It’s a typical mistake according to my favorite wrench turner. It looks like you missed the evaporator when you replaced "everything". The evaporator shares space with the heater coil. You’re going to have to open up the dash behind the glove box anyway to replace the leaking heater coil. Opening the air box for the heat and A/C means a lot of work upside down and cursing. That’s why it’s typically not done. Take some good advice from someone who went through A/C conversion hell on his 1992 Explorer. I started out with the same conversion that you did, but I had to add a evaporator and a compressor manifold. But I now have a truck that keeps me cool in Florida weather. Have your A/C shop recover the R-134 and replace the original evaporator coil when you replace your heater coil. At this point, these are the most inaccessible parts of your A/C and heater system that are now original to your Explorer. Replace the evaporator and heater coil while you can get to both, and save some on the labor charges. Then the only point of failure you would have left would be the A/C manifold (i.e. the hoses, easily accessible in the engine compartment) And make sure the receiver/dryer (the silver can with the two refrigerant lines connected to it) is replaced. This has to be done any time the system is open to the atmosphere, to keep moisture out. Good luck. Regards, Richard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->When you say "The A/C was completely replaced" do you mean ALL > components, both in and outside the firewall? > Here is a list of replaced parts. > AC Compresser > Orfice Tube-O > Dryer > AC Condensor > Orings AC system > AC Oil > Freon R 134 > 134 Kit Adpaptor > Flush AC system > Evacuate AC system >When you say "The A/C was completely replaced" do you mean ALL >components, both in and outside the firewall? >If the mechanic didn’t replace your evaporator coil inside, it’s time to > open up the checkbook and examine the condition of the evaporator coil >and the heater coil. In the heater coil, the engine coolant runs through >this miniature radiator to heat the cabin. That is what is probably >leaking. If he didn’t replace the evaporator, do it now while the >interior is opened up. >OTOH, if he DID replace it, he may have erred by not examining the >heater coil while the interior was opened up. Either way, it sounds like >your heater coil has gone south. Not to worry TOO much. If in fact you >have replaced EVERYTHING in the A/C system, this job should cost peanuts >compared to what you have probably spent so far. >>I have a 1992 2 door Ford Explorer. >>I have a water leak that also contains anti-freeze mixed with the water >>which is leaking from which looks like a hose that is comes out of the > back >>firewall into the engine compartment under the evaporator case. There > is >>also some type of moist fumes coming out of the passenger vents. >>The AC was completely replaced about one week ago. >>Mike
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take it back, they didnt check for leaks
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Hi! I just had the same problem this morning… I wake up, start up my 91 Explorer to warm it up and I notice that antifreeze smell…I now have a decent antifreeze/water leak that I cannot tell where its coming from (but its near the dash, but not leaking inside the car). I have plenty of warm moist fumes coming from all vents including my defrost….but my heat and a/c are fine. Ive had the radiator and water pump replaced, plus the fan clutch. Do I have the same problem?? I remember my mechanic said he "blew out" the heater coil but did not replace. Can you please help me? Ive had this truck in and out of the shop all summer long….with the same mechanic fixing it. He also replaced the head gaskets. Please help!
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I would think your mechanic blew a little too hard on the heater coil maybe swallowing some antifreeze in the process. You need to find another mechanic. If this guy is trying to locate the problem by just replacing everything he can think of, HE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED! >I remember my mechanic said he "blew out" the >heater coil but did not replace.
Mark McCoy<br> McCoy’s Market Bumpus Mills, Tennessee<br> http://www.mccoysmarket.com
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"Blew out the heater coil"?? With what? Air hose? Don’t think the heater coil would like this amount of pressure. Your description sounds like leaking heater coil blowing moist mix of water and anti-freeze out the vents. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I would think your mechanic blew a little too hard on the heater coil maybe >swallowing some antifreeze in the process. You need to find another mechanic. >If this guy is trying to locate the problem by just replacing everything he can >think of, HE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED! >I remember my mechanic said he "blew out" the >heater coil but did not replace. >Mark McCoy<br> >McCoy’s Market Bumpus Mills, Tennessee<br> >http://www.mccoysmarket.com
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I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry Black
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says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black
You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. John Rain Garden Corp. http://www.rain-garden.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black >You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle >and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are >vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. >However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it >were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. >John >Rain Garden Corp. >http://www.rain-garden.com
Better still, use an 0.045" thick EPDM liner which is much easier to repair than polyethylene and very resistant to sunlight. It doesn’t get brittle and is the liner of choice of the majority of ponders.
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I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry Black
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says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black
You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. John Rain Garden Corp. http://www.rain-garden.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black >You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle >and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are >vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. >However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it >were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. >John >Rain Garden Corp. >http://www.rain-garden.com
Better still, use an 0.045" thick EPDM liner which is much easier to repair than polyethylene and very resistant to sunlight. It doesn’t get brittle and is the liner of choice of the majority of ponders.
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I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry Black
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says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black
You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. John Rain Garden Corp. http://www.rain-garden.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black >You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle >and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are >vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. >However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it >were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. >John >Rain Garden Corp. >http://www.rain-garden.com
Better still, use an 0.045" thick EPDM liner which is much easier to repair than polyethylene and very resistant to sunlight. It doesn’t get brittle and is the liner of choice of the majority of ponders.
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I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry Black
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says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black
You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. John Rain Garden Corp. http://www.rain-garden.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black >You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle >and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are >vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. >However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it >were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. >John >Rain Garden Corp. >http://www.rain-garden.com
Better still, use an 0.045" thick EPDM liner which is much easier to repair than polyethylene and very resistant to sunlight. It doesn’t get brittle and is the liner of choice of the majority of ponders.
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I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry Black
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says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black
You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. John Rain Garden Corp. http://www.rain-garden.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black >You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle >and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are >vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. >However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it >were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. >John >Rain Garden Corp. >http://www.rain-garden.com
Better still, use an 0.045" thick EPDM liner which is much easier to repair than polyethylene and very resistant to sunlight. It doesn’t get brittle and is the liner of choice of the majority of ponders.
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I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry Black
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says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black
You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. John Rain Garden Corp. http://www.rain-garden.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black >You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle >and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are >vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. >However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it >were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. >John >Rain Garden Corp. >http://www.rain-garden.com
Better still, use an 0.045" thick EPDM liner which is much easier to repair than polyethylene and very resistant to sunlight. It doesn’t get brittle and is the liner of choice of the majority of ponders.
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I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry Black
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says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black
You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. John Rain Garden Corp. http://www.rain-garden.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black >You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle >and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are >vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. >However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it >were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. >John >Rain Garden Corp. >http://www.rain-garden.com
Better still, use an 0.045" thick EPDM liner which is much easier to repair than polyethylene and very resistant to sunlight. It doesn’t get brittle and is the liner of choice of the majority of ponders.
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I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry Black
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says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black
You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. John Rain Garden Corp. http://www.rain-garden.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >says… >I have a pond that is approximately 1200 gallons and the liner is >leaking. The black vinyl pond liner is puffing up everywhere with water >underneath it. My question is where do I get a repair kit and how do I >find the leak. Do I have to drain the pond or is there a way to find the >leak and raise the liner out of the water for repair.–its already >nearly to the surface in some areas. Spent all spring getting the water >clear and now this. Any and all suggestion would be appreciated. >Thanks >Jerry Black >You have a BIG leak. My experience with vinyl is that once it gets brittle >and begins tearing, it will be nothing but trouble from then on. There are >vinyl repair kits; check someplace that sells a lot of above-ground pools. >However, you may find that in making repairs you create more tears. If it >were me, I would plan on replacing the vinyl with polyethylene. >John >Rain Garden Corp. >http://www.rain-garden.com
Better still, use an 0.045" thick EPDM liner which is much easier to repair than polyethylene and very resistant to sunlight. It doesn’t get brittle and is the liner of choice of the majority of ponders.
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