Synthetic Oil in Explorers
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sy Cohen > Does anyone put synthetic in their explorers ? Did you notice any >difference > in the engine running with it in there ? I know this can open up a >enormous > thread, but I’m thinking of running in my 2003 AWD Eddie Bauer Explorer. > Thanks, > J.H > Ford, to my knowledge requires synthetic oil in the 2003 V8. I got a 2 >year free service deal when I bought my 2003 XLT ( SOHC V6) and my dealer is >using Ford Synthetic at my request. That said, I have been using Mobil 1 on >all my cars since 1976. The latest example was my 1994 4 cyl Toyota Camry, >which I sold with 130,000 miles on the clock. It still did not require any >oil between 5000 mile changes. >My suggestion – GO FOR IT! >Sy Cohen
I sold a 91 F-250 w/460 EFI at 160K miles+; oil changes at 3K miles (we had a service deal: changes at 3K miles or 90 days, life of vehicle, $75; it cost $25 to trasfer that same deal to our 99 Expedition. Our 92 Explorer Sport has the same service; 180K+ miles, and still going strong. No synthetics needed). That engine, when sold, was as sound as when new, burned no more oil than it had to. With modern engines & oil at recommended change intervals, 200K miles is no problem at all. I remember well when, if you reached 100K miles, the auto maker would put you in commercials, saying how reliable their engines were. Now, 100K miles is nothing. You can change oil at 5K miles and longer, and reach 100K miles. — Bill Funk replace "g" with "a"
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Different oils won’t give more then a very very tiny improvement in power or milage. No oil gives a 1.5 mpg increase. It might, maybe, in just the perfect situation, give a 1.5% increase but from the reports I’ve seen it’s more like 0.5%. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I use Mobil 1 in my SOHC Exploder and yes it will give you a seat of the >pants feeling over reg pet oils. I also change it between 3 & 4 thousand >miles, what is a little extra cost for better performance and engine >life. Why does Ford install at the factory 5W20 synthetic, because it >gives a 1.5 MPG increase over reg pet oils on the Taurus. Be happy, use >it and laugh at the ones who say it won’t work. Replace the power >steering oil also, your tranny is full of synthetic thanks to Ford. >Ron > Does anyone put synthetic in their explorers ? Did you notice any difference > in the engine running with it in there ? I know this can open up a enormous > thread, but I’m thinking of running in my 2003 AWD Eddie Bauer Explorer. > Thanks, > J.H
– Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts: "What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . . Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise a standing army upon its ruins." – Debate, U.S. House of Representatives, August 17, 1789
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Thanks for all your help guys. I will look into this and see if I get a difference myself. J.H
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sy Cohen > Does anyone put synthetic in their explorers ? Did you notice any > difference > in the engine running with it in there ? I know this can open up a > enormous > thread, but I’m thinking of running in my 2003 AWD Eddie Bauer Explorer. > Thanks, > J.H > Ford, to my knowledge requires synthetic oil in the 2003 V8. I got a 2 > year free service deal when I bought my 2003 XLT ( SOHC V6) and my dealer is > using Ford Synthetic at my request. That said, I have been using Mobil 1 on > all my cars since 1976. The latest example was my 1994 4 cyl Toyota Camry, > which I sold with 130,000 miles on the clock. It still did not require any > oil between 5000 mile changes. > My suggestion – GO FOR IT! > Sy Cohen
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I use Mobil 1 in my SOHC Exploder and yes it will give you a seat of the pants feeling over reg pet oils. I also change it between 3 & 4 thousand miles, what is a little extra cost for better performance and engine life. Why does Ford install at the factory 5W20 synthetic, because it gives a 1.5 MPG increase over reg pet oils on the Taurus. Be happy, use it and laugh at the ones who say it won’t work. Replace the power steering oil also, your tranny is full of synthetic thanks to Ford. Ron – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Does anyone put synthetic in their explorers ? Did you notice any difference > in the engine running with it in there ? I know this can open up a enormous > thread, but I’m thinking of running in my 2003 AWD Eddie Bauer Explorer. > Thanks, > J.H
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Sy Cohen
> Does anyone put synthetic in their explorers ? Did you notice any difference > in the engine running with it in there ? I know this can open up a enormous > thread, but I’m thinking of running in my 2003 AWD Eddie Bauer Explorer. > Thanks, > J.H > Ford, to my knowledge requires synthetic oil in the 2003 V8. I got a 2
year free service deal when I bought my 2003 XLT ( SOHC V6) and my dealer is using Ford Synthetic at my request. That said, I have been using Mobil 1 on all my cars since 1976. The latest example was my 1994 4 cyl Toyota Camry, which I sold with 130,000 miles on the clock. It still did not require any oil between 5000 mile changes. My suggestion – GO FOR IT! Sy Cohen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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>Does anyone put synthetic in their explorers ? Did you notice any difference >in the engine running with it in there ? I know this can open up a enormous >thread, but I’m thinking of running in my 2003 AWD Eddie Bauer Explorer. >Thanks, >J.H
SZeveral decades ago, I sold Amsoil in my shop. It did indeed work better; engines didn’t have as much wear, and fuel economy was better. It did, indeed, reduce friction compared to the dino oils of the day. Today, dino oils are much better; with proper changes, engines will easily get to 200k miles with little wear; the other mechanical/electrical parts are what kill vehicles today. There’s little reason (except extended change schedules) to use synthetics anymore. — Bill Funk replace "g" with "a"
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I run synth in all my stuff, not cuz I expect to "notice" any change in how they run, but just to allow an extended oil/filter change interval without worrying about oil condition. One of my vehicles only gets driven 3000 miles a year so I change the Mobile 1 once a year. The others get about 5 to 7 K a year. Realistically, even Dino oil would be good enough to last a year for my use but I prefer to have the extra margin of safety. >Does anyone put synthetic in their explorers ? Did you notice any difference >in the engine running with it in there ? I know this can open up a enormous >thread, but I’m thinking of running in my 2003 AWD Eddie Bauer Explorer. >Thanks, >J.H
– Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts: "What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . . Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise a standing army upon its ruins." – Debate, U.S. House of Representatives, August 17, 1789
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Does anyone put synthetic in their explorers ? Did you notice any difference in the engine running with it in there ? I know this can open up a enormous thread, but I’m thinking of running in my 2003 AWD Eddie Bauer Explorer. Thanks, J.H
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It *may* open up a thread but it will have more to do with Amsoil than anything else. You will not notice any running changes with the oil installed. You may or may not notice MPG improvements (my own experience showed synthetics to be dubious as a cost cutting measure). There are very few reasons to run synthetic motor oils. If you are a dedicated conservationist, you may decide to preserve conventional crude stocks – bearing in mind that many "synthetics" are simply hydro-cracked conventional crude based oils – and you may want to research which is what. True synthetics are a "PAO" based oil. If you live where temperatures are very, very cold you may consider PAO synthetics….. extreme cold weather performance is very good. Where I live, this past winter handed us -50
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